Performance Increase Recommendation

[CAPRICE005]

I have to agree they aren't the nicest wheels but it's hard to find a set of wheels in 20" that don't scream track master or hoon.....
I'm very open to suggestions if anyone finds a set of wheels that looks elegant and has some dish???.
I'm not under any disillusion that my wm caprice will be anything but a quick land barge, you cannot hide it's size.
There was a black wm caprice that had a nice set of wheels on it with abit of dish that looked nice but I couldn't find the image of it anywhere so I never knew what wheels they were.

[Plenty]

Try something like these
from this!

[CAPRICE005]

Wow, now that's a nice wheel, performance yet not screaming hoon either.....That's a very similar design to the vf Calais / Caprice wheels I have seen.
And the fact there in a 20"aswell is great.... Thanks for the heads up I never would of known!

[Wonky]

Yep, basically any VE brakes should fit the WM but bear in mind that any big brakes will severely limit your rim choice. I went Brembos on the front as much for looks as anything else because my disabilities mean I don't push hard, but certainly was thankful for them on the cruise yesterday trying not to hold people up. My rear rims have huge dish (which I ) but prevent me from putting any bigger brakes on the rear. Even had to change front rims to the latest version of the ones I had to clear the Brembos - different offset.

The most I have seen from a head/cam (big cam) VE on a non Disneyland dyno was around 350rwkw and that was a manual. Autos are typically 10 - 20 down on that so on a decent dyno I think the only way you'll make 400 or even close is FI.

Most of your prices are in the ballpark but I don't think an A6 tune is that expensive????

For suspension have you considered coilovers? I have height adjustable H&R coilovers which I love!! (Bilstein inserts) Decent big springs, unlike most coilovers.

[CAPRICE005]

Hey Wonky,

I always considered coil overs but always used to generalise them with the ridiculously stiff setup I used to have on the GTR (It would get stuck in a servo driveway as 1 to 2 wheels would lift off the ground making me stuck. I never realised H & R did coil overs to suit Holden's???
You don't have any idea of where to look as I do like the idea of adjustable ride height to really find that perfect level!.
I'll hopefully have the new brake kits by the end of the week and trial fit on the weekend to see what clearances I have or need.
I have a VF Caprice rim to try and see if it will clear but being only 19" rim I'm unsure especially as I don't know the offset I need to make everything look right and work.

Will keep everyone updated

[RED R8]

I like these as well classy, well made and quite affordable.

[Wonky]

Hey Wonky,

I always considered coil overs but always used to generalise them with the ridiculously stiff setup I used to have on the GTR (It would get stuck in a servo driveway as 1 to 2 wheels would lift off the ground making me stuck. I never realised H & R did coil overs to suit Holden's???
You don't have any idea of where to look as I do like the idea of adjustable ride height to really find that perfect level!.
I'll hopefully have the new brake kits by the end of the week and trial fit on the weekend to see what clearances I have or need.
I have a VF Caprice rim to try and see if it will clear but being only 19" rim I'm unsure especially as I don't know the offset I need to make everything look right and work.

Will keep everyone updated

I got mine from Quadrant Suspensions down here who actually did all the development work to create the VE/WM H&R coilovers. See http://www.quadrantsuspensions.com.au/ (they're also H&R Australia - http://www.h-r.com.au/). I think due to the big springs nobody who's ever been in mine (including people who know coilovers) has picked that it's running coilovers as the ride is very compliant. There are links to places all around Australia to get the H&Rs from both sites.

[graphicgoose]

graphicgoose, if you are definitely getting a blower, I would see how that goes first. Might be enough torque to not worry about diff gears.

Yeah, that's another thing I was considering. If I do get a blower it won't be for a year maybe, so we'll see. Wouldn't mind a zorst, OTR and tune in the meanwhile though.

Sorry OP, not meaning to highjack your thread. I agree with the Gen-F Senator wheels posted above, they look awesome! Subtle, yet mean and classy without screaming bogan/hoon.

[Wonky]

I like these as well classy, well made and quite affordable.

With that amount of dish I doubt they'll clear any big brakes though........

I like them too - what are they?

[Plenty]

Hey Wonky,

I have a VF Caprice rim to try and see if it will clear but being only 19" rim I'm unsure especially as I don't know the offset I need to make everything look right and work.

Sorry mate but they won't clear the Brembo brakes, you'll need the Redline or HSV wheels to clear them or shims which you don't want to go down that path.

[team illucid]

I have to agree they aren't the nicest wheels but it's hard to find a set of wheels in 20" that don't scream track master or hoon...

They are only 20"?.. Gee they look like 22" .... None of my 20" wheels look that big on my cars.

[Wonky]

They are only 20"?.. Gee they look like 22" .... None of my 20" wheels look that big on my cars.

Exactly my thoughts Kurt!!

[CAPRICE005]

Hey Guys,

In the photo I believe they are actually 22" but I don't want to go that big, want to try and keep it as legal as possible in the wheel department and with a decent ride aswell.
I actually saw the Gmax rims today on a ve Calais and have decided they aren't my cup of tea.... seeing them in person made a big difference they look weird tucked under a guard as they curve slightly outwards made it look too auto salon for my liking.
Just trying to see if I can find someone who can do better pricing then $4500 for a set of rims as that's a lot of coin just for wheels!

Plenty - I had a friend pop over with his VF Calais today and your dead right there isn't a lot of room behind those rims and I definitely do not want spacers so they are off the list aswell.

Wonky - your brake upgrade are they 4pots up front or the 6pot caliper?
I noticed there are 2 types of redline upgrade kits going around, either way for me any of them will be a upgrade?
I have to admit I can't wait to sort the suspension out as geez there is a lot of weight transfer when you pull the wm up from speed let alone go around corners with abit of weight transfer (Think waterbed)

I'm thinking I will just wait for the brakes to turn up and then get some measurements on what I need to clear the brakes with a rim....

Does anyone have a opinion on a cam for the auto caprice? I know I have to budget a extra $1300 for the afm dod delete kit aswell but I have no idea about what cam to look at as there is so many choices of brands and then spec's. Mainly looking for good low - midrange punch as I rarely get bothered into traffic light grand prix's and possibly something that could suit forced induction later on down the track. I think that choice will be tough (Turbo kit or Supercharger kit as they both have pro's and con's) I Imagine when the time comes it will mainly come down to budget rather then HP Goal as I'm not chasing huge numbers.

Cheeers Pete

P.s - Happy Australia Day to everyone yesterday

[Micks]

Does anyone have a opinion on a cam for the auto caprice?

Have a look around the forum for upgrades in L76/L77 using LS2 or better still LS3 stock cams. I picked up 60rwkw on 70K, L76 engine with the LS3 cam, with great manners.

[Micks]

You picked up 60rwkw out of just fitting that cam with no other modifications?

Is that a typo Mick or have I missed something mate?

No Ed just DOD del. kit PAC springs & Sonny tune. Stock was 219 following work 278. A 59rwkw increase! Che has similar great results with LS2 cams