ZB Commodore sales

[Micks]

Going to a ZB after my VF2, would be like going from a VL group A to a VN V6

[whitels1ss]

Interesting.....

"Holden Commodore drops out of the top 20 list as passenger cars generally fall out of favour

THE Holden Commodore has fallen to number 23 on the list of Australia’s best-selling passenger cars in May as the brand struggles to find solid ground in the wake of its exit from Australian manufacturing.
But that number is still fluffed up by sales of remaining locally built stock. Subtract the 157 VFII Commodore sales from the mix, and Holden moved only 883 of the new, fully imported ZB model, which would have dropped it another three rungs on the bestsellers’ list.

"Year to date, Commodore sales are down more than 50 percent on the same five-month period last year at 4225, preliminary data shows. Of those, only 2204 are of the new Opel Insignia-based ZB -- meaning Holden has sold fewer of its new Commodores this year than Ford has sold Mustangs (2285)."
Read next: April new car sales: Holden feels a different type of pain
Holden, meanwhile, had another month of struggles in the showroom during May, falling to number eight on the charts after managing just 5129 sales for the month. Only the Spark (123) and Barina (284) managed to build on May last year’s numbers -- by a combined 12 sales -- with the new Equinox (428) finally shuffling ahead of its replacement, the Captiva (370).
Overall, new-car sales tapped the brakes firmly in May, falling to just 100,754 for the month, a 2.1 percent contraction compared with the same month last year. It leaves the market exactly the same margin -- 2.1 percent -- ahead of the first five months of last year."


Top 20.

Toyota Corolla 3120 3160
Hyundai i30 2779 2683
Mazda3 2586 2594
Mazda CX-5 2382 2298
Toyota RAV4 2063 1977
Mitsubishi ASX 2029 1742
Volkswagen Golf 1951 1534
Kia Cerato 1843 1,735
Hyundai Tucson 1839 2135
Toyota Prado 1712 1619
Nissan X-Trail 1476 1992
Toyota Camry 1451 2233
Honda CR-V 1342 512
Mitsubishi Outlander 1275 1405
Mazda CX-3 1,274 1542
Toyota Kluger 1271 1145
Kia Sportage 1267 1206
Hyundai Accent 1251 1353
Subaru XV 1223 145
Hyundai Kona 1192 -



https://www.whichcar.com.au/news/vfa...s-zb-commodore

[QIKMIK]

Not interesting, just sad. Can't believe a company like Holden misread the market so badly. Do we thank head office in Detroit for killing an Aussie icon?

Mick

[Pickles]

Not interesting, just sad. Can't believe a company like Holden misread the market so badly. Do we thank head office in Detroit for killing an Aussie icon?

Mick

Detroit are massively involved,...nothing to do with the Aussie Govt, the secret to the future of VF was exports, particularly to the U.S. where they had nothing like the Chevy SS, which would've been a great export market for Holden,........IF GM had promoted it, BUT THEY DIDN'T, .....ask them why......No manufacturer in the world could survive on sales for a single model, available only to a single market, like Aussie.
Pickles.

[Micks]

Detroit are massively involved,...nothing to do with the Aussie Govt, the secret to the future of VF was exports, particularly to the U.S. where they had nothing like the Chevy SS, which would've been a great export market for Holden,........IF GM had promoted it, BUT THEY DIDN'T, .....ask them why......No manufacturer in the world could survive on sales for a single model, available only to a single market, like Aussie.
Pickles.

Yes keep believing that BS Martin

[Smitty]

Not interesting, just sad. Can't believe a company like Holden misread the market so badly. Do we thank head office in Detroit for killing an Aussie icon?

Mick

g'day from sunny England
can I say that GM also killed Vauxhall?

the Vauxhall equivalent of the ZB is a dead duck sales wise
(been here 3 days.. seen ONE Vauxhall Insignia) but
intersting that the Astra here is a sales winner.. big seller
and lots on the road

[whitels1ss]

g'day from sunny England
can I say that GM also killed Vauxhall?

the Vauxhall equivalent of the ZB is a dead duck sales wise
(been here 3 days.. seen ONE Vauxhall Insignia) but
intersting that the Astra here is a sales winner.. big seller
and lots on the road

How about the Ford Mondeo Smitty?
Have heard some good reviews on them from overseas but they don't seem to have done so well here.

What is your opinion on them?

[csv rulz]

How about the Ford Mondeo Smitty?
Have heard some good reviews on them from overseas but they don't seem to have done so well here.

What is your opinion on them?

Dont think ive ever seen a TV Commercial for the Mondeo. Ford seem to do next to no advertising which is why they only really sell Ranger and Mustang in decent numbers

[whitels1ss]

I prefer the look of the Mondeo to the new Commodore!

[Smitty]

How about the Ford Mondeo Smitty?
Have heard some good reviews on them from overseas but they don't seem to have done so well here.

What is your opinion on them?

drove one in Oz when they were first released.. nothing special but nothing bad
get out of a Camry and get into a Mondeo.. they drive similarly whitegoods on wheels

I never went further with them, as like with the Falcon, Ford are tight arses
when it comes to fleet pricing. I get better pricing from Audi BMW and
Peugot than I get from Ford (and Holden fleet discount can be double Fords)

Interesting as I have driven around the area around Heathrow, Slough, Reading
and into inner London (Richmond Twickenham) in the past few days I don't recall seeing one

It appears in the UK that the small Ford Focus, Vauxhall Astra vehicles are the popular
choice.. .. LOTS!

And apart from the odd Rangey, NO Colorado Ranger BT50 trucks to be seen anywhere
and even the smaller SUV= HRV, Escape, Equinox are nowhere to be seen

Completely different here in the UK

[whitels1ss]

drove one in Oz when they were first released.. nothing special but nothing bad
get out of a Camry and get into a Mondeo.. they drive similarly whitegoods on wheels

I never went further with them, as like with the Falcon, Ford are tight arses
when it comes to fleet pricing. I get better pricing from Audi BMW and
Peugot than I get from Ford (and Holden fleet discount can be double Fords)

Interesting as I have driven around the area around Heathrow, Slough, Reading
and into inner London (Richmond Twickenham) in the past few days I don't recall seeing one

It appears in the UK that the small Ford Focus, Vauxhall Astra vehicles are the popular
choice.. .. LOTS!

And apart from the odd Rangey, NO Colorado Ranger BT50 trucks to be seen anywhere
and even the smaller SUV= HRV, Escape, Equinox are nowhere to be seen

Completely different here in the UK

Yeah they love the small economical stuff.

How is the price of fuel these days over there?

[Smitty]

Yeah they love the small economical stuff.

How is the price of fuel these days over there?

fuel prices vary a little bit.. but around Heathrow Windsor Richmond
area, the price seems to be an average of GBP1.20 ltre (about AUD$2.20-2.25)

Interesting... talking to the family here I asked how much fuel prices had risen
with the oil prices? Got quizzical looks.... coz the price of petrol and diesel
has changed little in the past 18 months. Quite different to the gouging going
on at home.
....

[whitels1ss]

fuel price seems to be an average of GBP1.20 ltre (about AUD$2.20-2.25)

....

Would not like using 100l per week over there then!

[Ausmartin1]

Yep we can thank Detroit for screwing up Holden's Exports when they cancelled the Pontiac brand or maybe it didn't fit with them paying NO TAX in Australia like FORD, NISSAN & MITSUBISHI got to love those creative accountants to give Australians the Shaft.

As to the look of the ZB local dealer has one in Black AWD in the shopping centre along with a Nissan SUV & VW SUV and a Suzuki.
Got to say the ZB looks dated style wise by comparision and I think they chose black to hide the look, but with cars and SUV's being appliances these days it was not surprising to see no one looking at the new vehicles in a busy shopping centre.
I think the majority of the younger generation have zero enthusiasm and much rather be absorbed in their mobile phones.

[Smitty]

.. just to add to all this

saw a Vauxhall ad on the teev here a few minutes ago
interesting what their slogan is

The BRITISH brand since 1903

so just what is holden's (since manufacturing stopped)??