ZB Commodore sales

[whitels1ss]

We're saying we haven't seen many ZBs around, and I haven't either, well,....and here's my point, I don't "think" I have?
My point being that they look so similar to many other cars, I don't think I'd notice one on a casual look, passing traffic etc.
Pickles.

Yeah, there is nothing special about them.

The other day when I noticed the red one I mentioned my thoughts were something along the lines of

"Ewwe.. that's ugly...... what is it? Oh it's one of those new things GM are trying to sell off as a Commodore!"

Hey as far as I am concerned, GM may as well bring back their old advertising slogan... "Game Over!"

[Pickles]

Yeah, there is nothing special about them.

The other day when I noticed the red one I mentioned my thoughts were something along the lines of

"Ewwe.. that's ugly...... what is it? Oh it's one of those new things GM are trying to sell off as a Commodore!"

Hey as far as I am concerned, GM may as well bring back their old advertising slogan... "Game Over!"

No mate, I do not subscribe to that, at all.
I was going past our friendly Holden Dealer today, & as We'd been asked to drop in to check out the Silverado, we did, and boy,...what a MASSIVE machine, & beautifully finished, (I was offered a test drive. but declined, they are truly HUGE, I reckon I'd need a truck driver's license!)they've already sold several, as they have Camaros, so things are looking good on the HSV front.
BUT, back to the "new" Commodore, had a look at the turbo 4 Calais wagon today,...mate, it's a bloody nice package, Euro build quality,....I simply do not know where all this negativity comes from. Sure, it ain't the Commodore we're used to, but that doesn't mean it's a piece of crap,...because it isn't.
Like We've all said before, yes, it looks like a lot of other cars, but again, I will say, that don't mean it ain't a good car.
Pickles.

[whitels1ss]

No mate, I do not subscribe to that, at all.
I was going past our friendly Holden Dealer today, & as We'd been asked to drop in to check out the Silverado, we did, and boy,...what a MASSIVE machine, & beautifully finished, (I was offered a test drive. but declined, they are truly HUGE, I reckon I'd need a truck driver's license!)they've already sold several, as they have Camaros, so things are looking good on the HSV front.
BUT, back to the "new" Commodore, had a look at the turbo 4 Calais wagon today,...mate, it's a bloody nice package, Euro build quality,....I simply do not know where all this negativity comes from. Sure, it ain't the Commodore we're used to, but that doesn't mean it's a piece of crap,...because it isn't.
Like We've all said before, yes, it looks like a lot of other cars, but again, I will say, that don't mean it ain't a good car.
Pickles.

Some good points Martin but taste is personal & I don't like the look of them at all.


As I said they look ugly in my opinion.

Yeah it's fantastic to know that people will soon be able to buy the Camaro etc & I am sure they would be good vehicles.

[QIKMIK]

Finally saw one in traffic today that wasn't a demo from a local dealer. Even my 12 year old said it wasn't a real Commodore.

Mick

[Smitty]

No mate, I do not subscribe to that, at all.
I was going past our friendly Holden Dealer today, & as We'd been asked to drop in to check out the Silverado, we did, and boy,...what a MASSIVE machine, & beautifully finished, (I was offered a test drive. but declined, they are truly HUGE, I reckon I'd need a truck driver's license!)they've already sold several, as they have Camaros, so things are looking good on the HSV front.
BUT, back to the "new" Commodore, had a look at the turbo 4 Calais wagon today,...mate, it's a bloody nice package, Euro build quality,....I simply do not know where all this negativity comes from. Sure, it ain't the Commodore we're used to, but that doesn't mean it's a piece of crap,...because it isn't.
Like We've all said before, yes, it looks like a lot of other cars, but again, I will say, that don't mean it ain't a good car.
Pickles.

Martin I agree with you
(as I have said here before)

but Holden should never have called it 'Commodore'

it is not, never will be a replacement to the original
3 box sedan style VF which we know started as VB
It goes differently, handles differently, sounds different
.. all fine in its own right but it does not have the 'persona'
of what we call the 'Commodore'

[csv rulz]

With the exception of the Calais Tourer they are a very average looking car (styling wise)
The 2.0T is the certainly a ripping engine.

The problem is they named it commodore and against its competition it doesnt stand out in anyway.

The VF stood out from the crowd with RWD, V8 & M6 options in a very handsome package. It was always going to be a hard act to follow.

I almost feel had ZB been released after VZ it would have been a lot better received.

[Smitty]

....................
I almost feel had ZB been released after VZ it would have been a lot better received.

They did... it was called MALIBU

and
what a piece of shite that was !
poor engine, poor visibility, very average handling
( I drove several at its release.. just a bad piece of auto engineering)
and
so it died in the show room... rightly so in my opinion

[csv rulz]

They did... it was called MALIBU

and
what a piece of shite that was !
poor engine, poor visibility, very average handling
( I drove several at its release.. just a bad piece of auto engineering)
and
so it died in the show room... rightly so in my opinion

Malibu and ZB are vastly different cars despite the similar size. You are right, Malibu didnt deserve to sell

[Pickles]

They did... it was called MALIBU

and
what a piece of shite that was !
poor engine, poor visibility, very average handling
( I drove several at its release.. just a bad piece of auto engineering)
and
so it died in the show room... rightly so in my opinion

Agree,...Malibu, what a shocker,....why would Holden try to sell it?
Pickles.

[GPT]

Agree,...Malibu, what a shocker,....why would Holden try to sell it?
Pickles.

They never learned from Epica , now that was real shite!

[Pickles]

They never learned from Epica , now that was real shite!

GPT,...SPOT ON, I was trying to think of that name yesterday!!!......What an absolute SHOCKER, a SQUILLION times worse than Malibu, IMHO!!
Pickles.

[Smitty]

They never learned from Epica , now that was real shite!

indeed...!
and all the unsold Epicas got sent to Singapore... where they make up about
80% of the taxi fleet there. Want a cab ride from Changi to your hotel in Singapore
chances are it will be in an Epica

[CLUBRED]

We had an Epica diesel company car, I didn't hate it as much as I thought I would.

[GPT]

These are almost Mazda like in the front, and the rare chance you see one it doesn't stand out as a Holden at all. Finally saw one last week on the road.

In the same week saw

Several Tesla's
Lambo Adventador
Torana XU1
Brock VK Group A

[Micks]

This sums up the ZB for me