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    Re: Supercharger for VFSS

    Quote Originally Posted by whitels1ss View Post
    My mate is very happy with his 50/50 mix water meth kit which is set up progressively & only starts to trigger at around 7psi & flows more as the boost increases.

    He goes for ages on a tank of water meth & it's got plenty of safeguards built in but I know problems are possible with anything.
    Yeah, the water meth lasts quite well. obviously dependent on the size of the tank you are running and how hard you drive. As I said to you in PM Ed, mine is going back in again after xmas to get some extra jets installed.

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    Re: Supercharger for VFSS

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    Yeah, the water meth lasts quite well. obviously dependent on the size of the tank you are running and how hard you drive.
    As I said to you in PM Ed, mine is going back in again after xmas to get some extra jets installed.
    Look forward to hearing the results from the dyno Rod.


    Seen some stuff on the net & quite a few people in the states are just fitting it up
    without even so much as a touch up tune but I don't think I would be so game.

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    Re: Supercharger for VFSS

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    Look forward to hearing the results from the dyno Rod.


    Seen some stuff on the net & quite a few people in the states are just fitting it up
    without even so much as a touch up tune but I don't think I would be so game.
    Only running one nozzle at the moment so Brad was not too happy with the temps. Saw 90 degrees on the dyno. Quite a hot day, but still not good enough. He wants to see
    it under 70 at least. I think it only made 369rwkw, but no way he was going to lean on it and fk my engine We will get the extra jets in after xmas for some cooling goodness.
    Torque was through the roof though and it is still only running 10 pounds of boost which is pretty tame. Brad was running 18 when he first put the blower on and it blew well past 400, he refused to leave it at that level due to the stock bottom end and trans reliability. 2 years later and it still is reliable and strong as ever. I will put the dyno sheet up later.
    It is still the best mod I have ever done, just love it to death. Combined with the Gilmer drive it just makes the best noise and puts a grin on your face from ear to ear.
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    Re: Supercharger for VFSS

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    Only running one nozzle at the moment so Brad was not too happy with the temps. Saw 90 degrees on the dyno. Quite a hot day, but still not good enough. He wants to see
    it under 70 at least. I think it only made 369rwkw, but no way he was going to lean on it and fk my engine We will get the extra jets in after xmas for some cooling goodness.
    Torque was through the roof though and it is still only running 10 pounds of boost which is pretty tame. Brad was running 18 when he first put the blower on and it blew well past 400, he refused to leave it at that level due to the stock bottom end and trans reliability. 2 years later and it still is reliable and strong as ever. I will put the dyno sheet up later.
    It is still the best mod I have ever done, just love it to death. Combined with the Gilmer drive it just makes the best noise and puts a grin on your face from ear to ear.
    My mate only has one nozzle but it looks like it squirts like a fire hose.

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    Re: Supercharger for VFSS

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    My mate only has one nozzle but it looks like it squirts like a fire hose.
    How do you see that it squirts like a fire hose Ed?

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    Re: Supercharger for VFSS

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    How do you see that it squirts like a fire hose Ed?
    The nozzle goes into the intake pipe & I took the pipe off & activated it to have a look to see how much it sprayed.

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    Re: Supercharger for VFSS

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    The nozzle goes into the intake pipe & I took the pipe off & activated it to have a look to see how much it sprayed.
    Thanks Ed. Mine is in a spacer between the intake pipe and T/B. Brad did say that he doesn't like them in the pipe, not sure why, but I will ask him and get back with an answer.

    And to be honest, I have no idea what the nozzles should be putting out.

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    Re: Supercharger for VFSS

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    Thanks Ed. Mine is in a spacer between the intake pipe and T/B. Brad did say that he doesn't like them in the pipe, not sure why, but I will ask him and get back with an answer.

    And to be honest, I have no idea what the nozzles should be putting out.
    Luis at APS in Melbourne fitted the water meth & tuned David's car.

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    Re: Supercharger for VFSS

    What are the Whipples like?

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    Re: Supercharger for VFSS

    Quote Originally Posted by HOLDAN View Post
    What are the Whipples like?
    Whipple twin screws vs Eaton TVSR superchargers:


    When they first brought the twin screws out, they created less heat problems under more extreme uses than the early Eaton twin 3 blade rotors, they were great.....

    but when Eaton fixed the problem by changing from the old 3 blade rotors & brought out the 4 blade TVSR rotors the whole game changed.

    (I know that some Whipple dealers might even still try & sell the old heat story but it has been out of date since the TVSR rotors came out.)

    The Eaton TVSR rotors can safely run spinning at up to around 24,000 rpm so they are fantastic on the street.
    (Talk to your tuner about the picking size to suit your needs between a 2,300 or 2,650.)

    See this link.

    https://www.eaton.com/us/en-us/produ...-overview.html


    Reliability is just one good reason why so many car manufacturers (including General Motors, Mercedes Benz & Ford) fit Magnusson & Harrop TVSR superchargers OEM with factory warranty.

    (Recommended supercharger oil service life is over 160,000kms)


    AFAIK. Whipple is more expensive, still has rear intake, sits higher & the intercooler manifold offered for any of the LS engines in Australia is not as good as the
    Harrop or Magnusson superchargers.

    There are probably a few other reasons why most people do not fit them.
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    Re: Supercharger for VFSS

    Quote Originally Posted by whitels1ss View Post
    Whipple twin screws vs Eaton TVSR superchargers:


    When they first brought the twin screws out, they created less heat problems under more extreme uses than the early Eaton twin 3 blade rotors, they were great.....

    but when Eaton fixed the problem by changing from the old 3 blade rotors & brought out the 4 blade TVSR rotors the whole game changed.

    (I know that some Whipple dealers might even still try & sell the old heat story but it has been out of date since the TVSR rotors came out.)

    The Eaton TVSR rotors can safely run spinning at up to around 24,000 rpm so they are fantastic on the street.
    (Talk to your tuner about the picking size to suit your needs between a 2,300 or 2,650.)

    See this link.

    https://www.eaton.com/us/en-us/produ...-overview.html


    Reliability is just one good reason why so many car manufacturers (including General Motors, Mercedes Benz & Ford) fit Magnusson & Harrop TVSR superchargers OEM with factory warranty.

    (Recommended supercharger oil service life is over 160,000kms)


    AFAIK. Whipple is more expensive, still has rear intake, sits higher & the intercooler manifold offered for any of the LS engines in Australia is not as good as the
    Harrop or Magnusson superchargers.

    There are probably a few other reasons why most people do not fit them.
    That is an excellent response - really appreciate it - thanks

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    Re: Supercharger for VFSS

    Hi guys

    Next Friday, I'm heading back up the hill to meet with Terry at Paramount Performance. We will be discussing my plans for supercharging my VFSS - very excited indeed.

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    Re: Supercharger for VFSS

    Great stuff Dan, you will love driving with a blower.

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    Re: Supercharger for VFSS

    Quote Originally Posted by whitels1ss View Post
    Great stuff Dan, you will love driving with a blower.
    Thank you - yes I am looking forward to it. It will be a significant change from my VESS that was naturally aspirated - still made 550hp at the wheels. And Terry did all the work on that one.

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    Re: Supercharger for VFSS

    Quote Originally Posted by HOLDAN View Post
    Thank you - yes I am looking forward to it. It will be a significant change from my VESS that was naturally aspirated - still made 550hp at the wheels. And Terry did all the work on that one.
    So over 400rwkw NA? What was done to achieve that if you don't mind me asking? I assume stroker, massive cam?

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