Another Holden in the Family :) - Part 2

[whitels1ss]

I'm curious about this, are you talking about camber kits in general, or just Pedders ones?

This certainly has not been my experience, I have the full kit (not half) and mine has been fine for the last 11 years since its last wheel alignment. (although only around only 20,000kms ) Advantage suspension in Moorabbin did it.

I'm curious about other peoples experience on this?

Yes I am talking about all of the ones with bolts and adjustable cams, some hard driving on bumpy roads can make them move.

[SASLS1]

Well the whole Pedders thing turned into a mess this morning. Spoke with the store manager when I was dropping off and after he checked the springs that I was measured and quoted for he was curious that I had Pedders sports ryder springs going in the front and touring springs in the back. He re measured the car and the rear springs were actually going to raise the car rather than lower it. After some more research on his spring data base he came to the conclusion that they do not do anything lower than FE2 for the utes. Thank fk he was there and picked this up prior to the work being completed. On another note, I rebooked to have just the 4 poin camber kit done at around $750 but am wondering if this is even worthwhile now that I have decided to leave it at it's current height and just do the dampers? What are peoples thoughts? Waste of money or not?

You only need to install the rear adjustable bushes, if you have bad uneven rear tyre wear from excessive negative camber / toe wearing the inner edges of the tyres out.

If your rear tyres are wearing fairly evenly across the tyre, then it'll be a waste of time / money getting them fitted with the car at standard ride height.

Some cars are better / worse than others of the same model.

I'd just hold off fitting the adjustable bushes and drive the car for a few thousand kms and see how the rear tyres actually wear.

Then you can make an informed decision if the adjustable bushes are required or not.

[BLACK 346]

Has anyone used this Superpro camber kit? Was just thinking even though maybe not as good as the Pedders that it might still be a good alternative to nothing? Bonus is that it is a lot cheaper and I don't have to deal with Pedders again at all.

https://superpro.com.au/find/superpr...rphan-SPF0877K

[whitels1ss]

I have used heaps of SuperPro stuff on my cars,
I will use it whenever I have the choice.

The stuff is great.

I still don't see any point in doing it if what is in it is working.

I actually have the same SuperPro bushes in the back of mine but the non adjustable ones.

[BLACK 346]

I have used heaps of SuperPro stuff on my cars,
I will use it whenever I have the choice.

The stuff is great.

I still don't see any point in doing it if what is in it is working.

I actually have the same SuperPro bushes in the back of mine but the non adjustable ones.

I might have purchased some Kings springs to go in when the shockers are done Ed. Actually, not might, I did

[whitels1ss]

I might have purchased some Kings springs to go in when the shockers are done Ed. Actually, not might, I did

Are you sure about that?

[BLACK 346]

Are you sure about that?

Sure that I am probably going to regret buying them lol

[whitels1ss]

Sure that I am probably going to regret buying them lol

Yeah, it will sit too low & ride like $hit!

[SASLS1]

Has anyone used this Superpro camber kit? Was just thinking even though maybe not as good as the Pedders that it might still be a good alternative to nothing? Bonus is that it is a lot cheaper and I don't have to deal with Pedders again at all.

https://superpro.com.au/find/superpr...rphan-SPF0877K

I asked Centerline Suspension about the SuperPro rear Camber / Toe adjustment bushes while I was inquiring about getting rear adjustable bushes for my ute, as I had fitted a whole bunch of other Superpro Bushes to the rest of my ute and found them to be excellent.

They point blank refused to use them, due solely...... to them being the " 2 separate bolt design per bush " which from their experience over the years, they said are Shit... and that all... 2 bolt design " Brands..." of adjustable bushes are crap and always loosen off and fall out of adjustment after a short period of time as you can never get them tight enough.

I followed their advise, and they installed the 4 each - single bolt pedders 5401 adjustable bushes and did the alignment. Years later I have never needed another rear alignment and it has held the adjustment perfectly as they said it would. Awesome...


Pedders use to have online catalogs years ago, and you could research / and find all the tech info on their products very easily online.

Then in recent years, all their online catalogs have been taken off line, and only dealers can access their full online catalogs / tech info which so illogical and a PITA...

There loosing customers not being about to find their products IMO.

SuperPro has all their products catalogs / tech info all online and easily accessible. So logical...



As for riding shit at 320mm HTG ride height, that was only on very bumpy roads. On smooth roads my ute handled sensationally with hardly any body roll, with my Koni Shocks and Max positive caster dialed in the front... which gives you heaps of added negative camber on the front outside wheel the more you turn the steering wheel. Then back at straight ahead, the camber goes back to the static camber set from the wheel alignment at a normal negative 0.5 deg for great straight line tyre wear. Win... Win...

So the more you turn the front wheels from center, the more and more negative camber gets dialed in making the car handle like its on rails around corners with max positive caster setup in the front.

Can't beat King Spring for their great range of spring heights and rates available to get the perfect ride height your after.

Shock choice plays a huge roll on how the car rides and controls the spring travel.

I have my front Yellow adjustable Koni's dialed up to 3/4 hard on rebound, which is perfect for my daily driving style.

I've tried them on full soft on rebound adjustment on the front, and it has so little shock control and alot softer ride, but I like the alot firmer / controled ride set at 3/4 hard on rebound adjustment and my ute handles heaps better set up this way around corners.

[whitels1ss]

As for riding shit at 320mm HTG ride height, that was only on very bumpy roads.

Well that rules it out for a daily around here then.

[BLACK 346]

Well that rules it out for a daily around here then.

Yes, better off in a 4WD in Adelaide for sure.

[BLACK 346]

Nice little improvement in fuel economy with the new gears, gone from 15l/100 to 12.7l/100, exactly the same driving conditions.

[whitels1ss]

Yeah, you would see it help around town,

those 3.07 are just a bit too tall.

[BLACK 346]

Finally got it back. SL in the front, SSL in the rear with short stroke dampers, 4 Point superpro camber kit. Refurbished VX/VU SS Wheels with new centre caps. Had air horns fitted and new clock spring (why the horn was not working in the first place). Drives mint, far nicer than with old suspension, so I can only assume that combo was way past it's used by date, especially the dampers. My only concern is the appearance of the rear and that it might attract the wrong attention. Will consider going up to SL maybe, not sure yet.

[whitels1ss]

Like the wheels but I think it looks a bit low Rod.