Filling 6L80E

[duke5700]

I was talking to another bloke that mentioned Craigs Autos may of had a pan that would do the job?

[HOLDAN]

well it looks like my 6l80 has finally cried enough after 132K km's. 5th and 6th gear are starting to slip at anything over 25% throttle.

looking at the extreme duty 6l80e combo kit from patc, anyone had any experiance with them?

Yes I bought their kit in Feb this year - havin a world of trouble getting the tune right. Still not right after numerous attempts. I was reading a Tech story on Circle D's website. The clutch packs have fairly tight clearances. According to them, if they are alittle too large, you get hesitation in changes etc. I could go on and on. It's been quite a saga and looking back, I should have bought a T400 and ditched the 6L80E

[Tre-Cool]

I picked up a 2nd hand 08 model trans today for 1500. Job for the weekend t as i started losing 4th and 3rd on the way home.

[Wonky]

Found a pic of the Caddy filter - somebody in the States is hopefully going to get me one and send it over to me ASAP but as expected it does seem to have a long neck.



I hope to hear back on a group buy price for the Caddy pans today.

[IJ.]

Found a pic of the Caddy filter - somebody in the States is hopefully going to get me one and send it over to me ASAP but as expected it does seem to have a long neck.



I hope to hear back on a group buy price for the Caddy pans today.

Could always make a Male/Female adaptor then use a bracket like the B&M Deep 4L60 sump does.

Benefit of doing it this way is you use cheap/available Genuine filters.

[Wonky]

I expect gaz05 can make up an adapter so the stock filter can be used which is part of the reason I sent him up the Caddy pan I had.

However, given the price the Caddy filter is in the US (RRP approx $US55 but I've seen it on some sites for sub $US30) I'm hopeful we can buy 10 - 20 at a time and land them here even cheaper than our stock filters (part #24252158 list price $69 + GST) and save any messing around. I'm just waiting on Fraser in the US to get back to me on that.

[etrocket]

Any progress wonks??

[Wonky]

Haven't heard back from anyone. Understandable with gaz05 as according to Australia Post given his location he may only have received the pans today or maybe not even yet. Haven't heard back from Fraser (not unusual unfortunately but when he does come through his prices are usually very good). Possibly also understandable because in the scheme of things my order of just one filter until I know it's correct is trivial. If/when I order possibly 10 pans and 10 filters hopefully he'll be more responsive.

Haven't heard back from Holden on a bulk buy price yet but my contact now only works part time - will email both he and Fraser again tonight.

[Tre-Cool]

yeah im keen for something asap which ever way we go as i've just put in a new trans.

i didnt have any spare fluid either so i had to use a couple litres from the old one to top it up and i dont want to waste putting new stuff in & then dump it for the bigger pan.

[HYMEY]

Yes I bought their kit in Feb this year - havin a world of trouble getting the tune right. Still not right after numerous attempts. I was reading a Tech story on Circle D's website. The clutch packs have fairly tight clearances. According to them, if they are alittle too large, you get hesitation in changes etc. I could go on and on. It's been quite a saga and looking back, I should have bought a T400 and ditched the 6L80E

You will be forever chasing ur tale getting the tune right. And if u run the line pressure to high without a modified pan and pickup it makes things worse.

Your crazy bying a turbo 400 for what you want. Its a waste of time, the thing is years ago people hated certain trannies like the torqueflite and C4 but now guys have worked them out there popular all of a sudden. If you just keep changin things willy nilly and its not working then you shouldnt be changin it at all. You need to get the car driving and idling nice to start with(gaz told me it idles up to shit) it should idle stock with ur cam. Then get a decent pan on it, Your box is prob already stuffed from cavitation. The whole clearance thing maybe true but I have never had troubles with A6s at all. They are a fabulous box in the right hands and light years ahead of a turbo 400. First of all it needs oil. Its a hydraulic circuit not a computer program.

I set them up with no torque management on upshift, only downshift , You dont need it on upshift, it just messes up with the cars acceleration, it will shift if it has oil to all the valves and clutches.

Sounds like u have spent a lot of money going in circles and you will continue to do so until you modify the pan.

[HYMEY]

Wonky it only needs a couple more litres of oil, the issue is not its capacity but the filter location is up the front not the back, it needs baffling, it doesnt matter how deep the filter is it will starve for oil and hesitate unless it is baffled correctly.

[Wonky]

Fair enough Joel. I'm just a dumb kent with NFI on the technical aspects and was just looking for an easier and cheaper option for guys like me who want better performance from their A6 but don't need the ultimate performance that guys like gaz05 who seriously drag do.

Hopefully gaz can baffle my Caddy pan for me!

[HYMEY]

You should be right Wonky, the caddy pan will work light years ahead of the A6. 99% of guys here dont race the caddy pan is a solution for them and hopefully we get some feedback on here.

For those wondering on line pressure settings we commanded 1750kpa, the highest you can command is 2048 kpa. There was no need to go that high in Garrys car it worked very well with no slip.

[etrocket]

Just a quick question - the drain plug on the caddy pan appears lower therefore when filling up the tranny with oil the level be lower than the standard pan. Can't tell from the pics, can any one confirm. According to wonks pic, the standard plug was 13mm low and the caddy pan 20mm from top

[Wonky]

Just a quick question - the drain plug on the caddy pan appears lower therefore when filling up the tranny with oil the level be lower than the standard pan. Can't tell from the pics, can any one confirm. According to wonks pic, the standard plug was 13mm low and the caddy pan 20mm from top

Actually, you've just made me realise that due to my lack of experience with these things I've been looking at things the wrong way I think, possibly the same as others given nobody seems to have picked it up either???

That's not the drain plug but the oil level check plug, so I assume that with the car sitting level and transmission up to temp the actual capacities to that point are quite similar i.e. the extra 1.5 litres I measured the Caddy pan as having will just be air if you fill to specifications.

Lacking technical knowledge of these A6s as I do I do however assume that we could therefore overfill by that 1.5 litres with no real detriment compared to the standard pan and given that many people have found the A6 seems to be better when slightly overfilled even with the standard pan it means with the Caddy pan we could possibly even overfill by 2 litres? Pure guesswork and supposition on my part.

Also explains why gaz's extra baffling on his double depth pans is required.