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    Re: Project Blown SS Refresh

    Quote Originally Posted by Woodchukka View Post
    Good to hear all IJ's work came to a good result Frangafry. As for the numbers it has been covered here many times a dyno is a tuning tool and there are so many factors affect the end result.:
    Agree totally that the dyno is only a tuning tool and that with a fully rebuilt engine designed to take a hammering Carlton can go for it with confidence with his blower now, rather than on an engine with quite a few kms on it.

    All I was trying to point out is for those who do look at the figures and think FARK! about the torque figure as Carlton himself was, that I believe it's a misleading figure and that the actual difference in torque is not significant.

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    Re: Project Blown SS Refresh

    Quote Originally Posted by Wonky View Post
    Agree totally that the dyno is only a tuning tool and that with a fully rebuilt engine designed to take a hammering Carlton can go for it with confidence with his blower now, rather than on an engine with quite a few kms on it.

    All I was trying to point out is for those who do look at the figures and think FARK! about the torque figure as Carlton himself was, that I believe it's a misleading figure and that the actual difference in torque is not significant.
    It's more about how it's making it's power now Gary, it's turning the rears even at partial throttle and banging Traction Control where the only time it did that in the past was at full noise and this is on bigger stickier rubber

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    Re: Project Blown SS Refresh

    Quote Originally Posted by IJ. View Post
    It's more about how it's making it's power now Gary, it's turning the rears even at partial throttle and banging Traction Control where the only time it did that in the past was at full noise and this is on bigger stickier rubber
    My VT2 with just 304rwkw was a bloody handful to drive (like you say break traction at part throttle at will), I can imagine what his would be like. At least he has TC the VT2 Manuals did not come with it.

    Enjoy Frangafry, many years of happy motoring, and a couple of cheapish (exhaust) upgrades down the track to keep you interested.

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    Re: Project Blown SS Refresh

    Quote Originally Posted by BLACK 346 View Post
    My VT2 with just 304rwkw was a bloody handful to drive (like you say break traction at part throttle at will), I can imagine what his would be like. At least he has TC the VT2 Manuals did not come with it.

    Enjoy Frangafry, many years of happy motoring, and a couple of cheapish (exhaust) upgrades down the track to keep you interested.
    Thanks Black, I made this point to Carlton on the phone yesterday, once you're over 400rwhp 2wd on real street tyres you're traction limited so either have to pedal it or use TC to keep it under control... not an ideal situation for a daily driver

    Just the fact he was caught unawares by the throttle kicker in a car he's owned it's entire life speaks volumes for how much more mid range it's picked up.

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    Re: Project Blown SS Refresh

    Great work IJ, I'd be over the moon with a motor and tranny I had some confidence in. If my car broke loose when ever I hammered the throttle thats about all I would ever ask for...If you want a better dyno reading just up the boost, it impresses more people but realistically just makes it even more a handful on the road..
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    Re: Project Blown SS Refresh

    Quote Originally Posted by RED R8 View Post
    Great work IJ, I'd be over the moon with a motor and tranny I had some confidence in. If my car broke loose when ever I hammered the throttle thats about all I would ever ask for...If you want a better dyno reading just up the boost, it impresses more people but realistically just makes it even more a handful on the road..
    Thanks Red

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    Re: Project Blown SS Refresh

    Hi folks, really sorry to be MIA at the moment, but getting flogged at work and at home (only had about 5 minutes over the last couple of days to take a peek at what is going on in here); So, thought I would quickly say the following:

    I think we all know I am a numptee by now, and although I made the comment about only having 324rwks - I am by no means complaining (I am loving the wags at the moment but not really getting the time to put her through her paces). So, in all honesty, I take the point in regards to the decalred nm figure - but I can tell you it feels a damn sight better power delivery that it was!!!!! A deman sight better!

    I am also not getting hung up on any figures, as end of the day its all about longevity and drivability - which I now believe I have gobs of both!!!


    So, to sum up Franga is very bloody happy with where he is at.

    I do hope to get some time to sit down tonight and give some more of my thoughts.

    Once again, IJ, you are a bloody legend and a wizard! I have total confidence in the engine/gearbox and both are performing flawlessly - abosultely nothing but praise mate!

    Chat soon everyone,

    Cheers,

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    Re: Project Blown SS Refresh

    Quote Originally Posted by IJ. View Post
    Thanks Black, I made this point to Carlton on the phone yesterday, once you're over 400rwhp 2wd on real street tyres you're traction limited so either have to pedal it or use TC to keep it under control... not an ideal situation for a daily driver

    Just the fact he was caught unawares by the throttle kicker in a car he's owned it's entire life speaks volumes for how much more mid range it's picked up.
    change diff ratio

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    Re: Project Blown SS Refresh

    Quote Originally Posted by XUV View Post
    change diff ratio
    To achieve what?

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    Re: Project Blown SS Refresh

    Quote Originally Posted by IJ. View Post
    To achieve what?
    Traction, tyre wear, economy ?? what's the lowest they have 2.6;1 .... or is it going to light up regardless?

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    Re: Project Blown SS Refresh

    Really Tall Diff gears are going to hurt economy everywhere except the Freeway at 110...

    There's a bit of a trade off to keep the engine in it's "happy place" lug the RPM below that and economy takes a huge hit, I ran 2.5:1 in my old VB/SBC car and found out first hand..

    I think the 3.46:1 in it now are a good compromise, Traction loss would just come at a higher road speed per gear, If I sidestepped the clutch in the VB at anything over a 60 Kmh roll it would blaze up the 295's all day long with a lot less power than the SS has

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    Re: Project Blown SS Refresh

    Yeah Carlton you chose the right man for the job that's for sure! Haven't known IJ long but he's very pedantic in how things should be done & shows true in his results!
    I think the 3.46:1 in it now are a good compromise
    In a wagon, ute or light commercial they are spot on, different story in a sedan perhaps!

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    Re: Project Blown SS Refresh

    Quote Originally Posted by whitels1ss View Post
    Sounds perfect for a great daily drive.


    Yep, I rek'n that is a pretty damn good description (except, it has BIG hidden balls!).

    I'm a few days in now since the tune and this thing is pretty bloody close to peeeeeerfect.

    I've got a little more confident with her now and all I can say is my wags is a dream to drive (and more than powerful enough at this point), besides the bonus of the motor, the gearbox is sen-bloody-sational!!!!

    Power mode is crisp and snappy with no noticeable flare and econo mode is just cruise'y and perfect (both modes pull like a frik'n train - best of both worlds!) - The entire car now just 'flows' and the 'power/torque - including evil grin' when the angry foot is depressed is just fantastic.

    My traction is pretty much under control now; The new tyres have got a few more km's on them and i've got a better grasp of the power/pedal thing ............ so not as much 'stiff pedal' hahahaah (mind you I still haven't really gone WOT yet ........).

    Seriously enjoyed the drive home tonight (peak hour traffic too), as the car just cruised with no issue what so ever - it just feels so strong and capable now (it just feels like she wants to go all the time, just breath on the pedal and you're away!)

    Today End

    *sigh* - having a beer now and reflecting on the past couple of weeks/months; God damn I got lucky!

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    Re: Project Blown SS Refresh

    Quote Originally Posted by Wonky View Post
    Agree totally that the dyno is only a tuning tool and that with a fully rebuilt engine designed to take a hammering Carlton can go for it with confidence with his blower now, rather than on an engine with quite a few kms on it.

    All I was trying to point out is for those who do look at the figures and think FARK! about the torque figure as Carlton himself was, that I believe it's a misleading figure and that the actual difference in torque is not significant.
    Wasn't having a go at you Wonky. Just reread my post and maybe I could have worded it a little better as you may have taken it that way so sorry if you felt I was having a shot.

    Good to hear you are have falling in love with the wags all over again Frangafry.

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    Re: Project Blown SS Refresh

    Quote Originally Posted by FrangaFry View Post


    Yep, I rek'n that is a pretty damn good description (except, it has BIG hidden balls!).

    I'm a few days in now since the tune and this thing is pretty bloody close to peeeeeerfect.

    I've got a little more confident with her now and all I can say is my wags is a dream to drive (and more than powerful enough at this point), besides the bonus of the motor, the gearbox is sen-bloody-sational!!!!

    Power mode is crisp and snappy with no noticeable flare and econo mode is just cruise'y and perfect (both modes pull like a frik'n train - best of both worlds!) - The entire car now just 'flows' and the 'power/torque - including evil grin' when the angry foot is depressed is just fantastic.

    My traction is pretty much under control now; The new tyres have got a few more km's on them and i've got a better grasp of the power/pedal thing ............ so not as much 'stiff pedal' hahahaah (mind you I still haven't really gone WOT yet ........).

    Seriously enjoyed the drive home tonight (peak hour traffic too), as the car just cruised with no issue what so ever - it just feels so strong and capable now (it just feels like she wants to go all the time, just breath on the pedal and you're away!)

    Today End

    *sigh* - having a beer now and reflecting on the past couple of weeks/months; God damn I got lucky!
    Gee it's great to read of someone who is actually delighted with the workmanship and outcome of an expensive job.
    Congratulations to IJ for a job well done
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